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kayawish24
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Hello , i need advice from O2 expert.i got sued for torrenting in 2020 this month by a scam firma.i checked the date and time when the download happened i was not even at home i was at job and i did had PC too that time but O2 game my adress to that company saying that ip was assigned to me when the torrent seeding happened.i want to ask what is the margin percentage of error that ip was assingned to me that time in 2020.i Red in forums and reddit that margin of error can be more then 50% like ip was assigned to someone else but O2 system foward my name to the company.

please any O2 expert like stefan answer this.what is the error percentage that in 2020 that specific ip was assigned to me.

Lösung von o2_Lars

Hello @kayawish24, welcome back to our o2 community :-)

First of all, IANAL. We are not able to provide any legal advice in our community.

Also, we are not able to provide any information regarding the margin of error for an answer that results from a legal inquiry.

The one recommendation I have is to lawyer up and let a legal professional handle this issue.

Sorry that we can’t provide further assistance :-/

Regards,

Lars

 

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schluej
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  • 9. August 2024

Moin,

you are talking about DSL, Cable or mobile connection?


bs0
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  • 9. August 2024

2020? When did the firm allegedly request the IP from o2? Telefonica only stores IP addresses for 7 days after disconnection.


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 9. August 2024

DSL , in march 2020 they said now my question is how much is the error margin that the ip was realy on my name when it was assigned.


schluej
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  • 9. August 2024

go to a lawyer…


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 9. August 2024

that was not the answer to my question.i said only O2 agent must answer.the question was what is accuracy probability of ip ? error percentage.

Edit o2_Kathi 13.08.24 Full quote removed


bs0
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  • 9. August 2024

Nobody from o2 can tell you that! How would this information help you? The accuracy of this data should of course be 100% but it probably isn’t as clearly mistakes can be made, and If you believe that to be true in your case then you should contact a lawyer who specialises in this area of law to represent your interests. He / she will know how best to challenge allegations of this kind and identify errors.


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 46 Antworten
  • 12. August 2024

can anyone from O2 agent please answer my thread about the accuracy of ip please.


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 12. August 2024
bs0 schrieb:

Nobody from o2 can tell you that! How would this information help you?

this what you said that mistakes can be made if o2 agent post this will realy help me.

Edit o2_Kathi 13.08.24 Full quote shortened


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 12. August 2024

@o2_Manuela @o2_Stefan please reply my thread.


schluej
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  • 15382 Antworten
  • 12. August 2024

With DSL you have a unique IP. DSL is not using CGN. 

So the error rate is very low. Otherwise "data retention aka Vorratsdatenspeicherung" would make no sense.

If you get the letter in 2024 i would give you the advice to ask a lawyer For assist!


kayawish24
Lehrling
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  • 12. August 2024

my ip auto changes every 24 hour i checked that,i check my ip everyday.can any O2 agent please reply ?

Edit o2_Kathi 13.08.24 Full quote removed


schluej
Superstar
  • 15382 Antworten
  • 12. August 2024

A change every 24h is normal. But with DSL you will not get a CGN Address, CGN is sometimes used outside of Germany…. But wait for a O2 Mod.


bs0
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  • 12. August 2024

Please be patient. A moderator will reply to you (but almost certainly won't be able to give you the information you want), but this can take several days or even a couple of weeks. If you can't wait you will have to contact customer services.

@schluej There is no Vorratsdatenspeicherung in Germany, which is why it would be important to compare the dates on documents as the IP is only stored by providers for a short period.


schluej
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  • 12. August 2024

@bs0 ja. Aber die würde bei einer 33% Fehlerrate keinen Sinn machen. Und wenn das ganz aus 2020 ist, dann wäre es nach meiner Recherche verjährt, selbst wenn die IP stimmt.


bs0
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  • 12. August 2024

Stimmt, die Verjährung hatte ich nicht bedacht. Sofern die Ansprüche erst 2024 geltend gemacht wurden.

Edit: Zu beachten ist jedoch, dass bei Urheberrechtsverletzungen mit Bereicherungsabsichten (Schadensersatz aufgrund eines durch den Verstoß erlangten Vorteils) eine Verjähringsfrist von 10 Jahren gilt.


kayawish24
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  • 12. August 2024
schluej schrieb:

@bs0 ja. Aber die würde bei einer 33% Fehlerrate keinen Sinn machen. Und wenn das ganz aus 2020 ist, dann wäre es nach meiner Recherche verjährt, selbst wenn die IP stimmt.

how you know 33% failerrate ?


bs0
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  • 12. August 2024

That was just an example to illustrate how a high errror rate would make little sense as nobody would be able to rely on the data.

When exactly was the claim filed against you? This is more relevant than the error rate.


kayawish24
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  • 13. August 2024
bs0 schrieb:

That was just an example to illustrate how a high errror rate would make little sense as nobody would be able to rely on the data.

When exactly was the claim filed against you? This is more relevant than the error rate.

in may 2024 that shitty frommer legal saying that i uplaoded some movie in 2020.Funny thing is i never got any letters from them in these 4 years.


o2_Lars
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  • 16. August 2024

Hello @kayawish24, welcome back to our o2 community :-)

First of all, IANAL. We are not able to provide any legal advice in our community.

Also, we are not able to provide any information regarding the margin of error for an answer that results from a legal inquiry.

The one recommendation I have is to lawyer up and let a legal professional handle this issue.

Sorry that we can’t provide further assistance :-/

Regards,

Lars

 


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