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Hi everyone! Hopefully, here is someone from O2 who could help.

 

I need more advanced features that O2 box can provide. So I would like to know:

 

  1. The exact features that the router I’ll buy needs to support (VDSL? probably What else?)
  2. How to return your Homebox router and stop paying rental for that once I’ve purchased and configured my own router.

Thanks.


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@OlegN What functions you need? Is a actual Fritzbox 7530 or 7590 enough for you? Fritzbox have since Firmware 7.20 an international language menu and it is supported by o2.

The o2 homebox you send back over the o2 dsl Return Portal for free. After o2 received the homebox your rental will automatically canceled.

Do not throw away the DHL receipt.

https://dsl-retoure.o2online.de/start/Dashboard/Index

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I need more control on DHCP and DNS. I need more ethernet ports. I want to use a more reliable vendor with more features in firmware like Zyxel/MIkrotik. And I don’t want to pay a rent of course :)

 

So I just need to know the network requirements overall that the router must support so it can work:

 - in the current O2 network

 - in other DSL networks popular in Germany in case I move to another place in Germany in the future.

 

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and it also looks like some broadcasting is not working between wifi and cable ports. I need that working. There is no way to configure it in Homebox.

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@OlegN Did you want use your landline phone over the router? And you need a VDSL Annex B compatible device.

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>>And you need a VDSL Annex B compatible device.

Thanks! That was I was asking for.

No, I don’t need landline at all.

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@OlegN and if you want to use the router with other German Dsl Providers I strongly recommend a Fritzbox 7590. You have 5 LAN Ports at this device.

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Where can I read VDSL settings needed for O2 network?

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@OlegN How much money you want to give out? And the parameters are VPI 1, VCI 32 , VLAN-ID 7 

Did you have your VDSL Username and password from your mein o2 customer Account?

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thanks!

>>How much money you want to give out?

no more than 300 euro I think. maybe 200.

>>Did you have your VDSL Username and password from your mein o2 customer Account?

No, I did not now they are needed for a bridged connection, maybe I am not very familiar with this technology used by O2. If you tell me where I can get it, that would be perfect.

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@OlegN Here.

 

With a fritzbox you have not real control over DNS.

For that you should use a be.IP plus from Bintec. That real control over DNS.

You can modify DNS entry's. 

You can forwarding domain’s e.g.

you would not like to use the O2 DNS that normal you cant use voip from O2.

With the be.ip you can forward the sip.alice-voip.de. request to the O2 DNS.

And all other request go to “your” chosen DNS Server.

If you don’t like google analytics you can configure a static entry with a “Negative” answer. 

The DHCP Server you can set the following options

and you are able to set the DHCP Option 43

Each of the 5 Ethernet ports could be configured for its own IP Range.

But max. DSL Speed is only 100Mbit.

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well, in worst case, if I would not have found everything that I actually need in a single device, then I will probably purchase a Mikrotik (very flexible, and e.g. I can add static DNS records for my home network) and some simpler VDSL device that would operate as bridge only.

 

Thanks all btw!

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@OlegN what tariff you have? My home M or L?

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hmm, I don’t remember the name :) it’s 100/40 Mbit.

the be.ip plus is able to to do static entry’s

 

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>>the be.ip plus

I’ve taken a look - that’s overkill for me and I don’t need anything in regards to VoIP.

VoIP is just a add on.

A VDSL Modem (only) is about 150€…

If you need in inexpensive solution, you could try to buy a Fritzbox 7520 on ebay for <= 60€.

Than take your Mikrotik router an connect it to the 7520. And route the Internet traffic to the 7520.

This Fritz OS is able to handle a static route, back to the mikrotik. And you will not have the double NAT problems. And if you like you could defend the Mikrotik as Exposed Host. 

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Hello @OlegN,

finding the right router for the planned usage is not always an easy task. I was in a similar position a few months ago and finally settled for a Fritzbox because at that time it was a simply and cheap solutiuon for what I had planned with my DSL connection.

Of course there may always be circumstances that require more specialized solutions. I hope the tipps you recieved from @Joe Doe and @schluej were useful and you recieved all necessary information :-)

Regards,

Lars

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okay, you almost convinced me.

 

What’s the real difference between Fritzbox 7590 German and International versions? The price is quite different.

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@OlegN the international Version ask for the system language in the Installation process. In the German Version you can change the system language after set up. The international version comes without German TAE DSL cable. You can/should buy the German Version.

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thanks.

 

anything else? LIke WiFi power?

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@OlegN No. Before Firmware 7.20 only the international Version has multilanguage support. Now the German version too.

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I think I’m gonna buy Fritzbox 7590 German and use static DHCP and DNS services on my Synology 918+.

 

My only concern on this setup is if some issue with the NAS, clients will not be able to get IPs from Fritzbox until that is fixed, however, in case of factory reset of Fritzbox, it should work.

 

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the help.

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Hello @OlegN,

if all the clients in the network understand IPv6 it is possible to use the Fritzbox as a DHPC “server” for IPv6 with a lower priority than the NAS. This is a feature built-in in IPv6 which allows for an easier deployment of IPv6 addresses over a network.

The 7590 is a good choice, I bought one a few months ago since I plan on updating my DSL connection to supervectoring with 250MBit/s \o/

Regards,

Lars

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